Show HN: Group video chat with no signups or downloads

(itshello.co)

91 points | by vasanthv 1983 days ago

15 comments

  • tendencydriven 1983 days ago
    This is a great project, and really quite useful. Any way to support desktop sharing, or is that out of scope (as you'd most likely require a plugin, like Appear.in and such).

    Thank you for releasing the source code as well, I've been wanting to learn more about WebRTC and it looks remarkably simple to get started with!

    • vasanthv 1983 days ago
      Yes currently desktop sharing is only available in Chrome. I am planning to enable it only for the supported browsers soon, as I don't want anyone to download a plugin for this purpose.
      • villgax 1982 days ago
        It works fine with Firefox without extensions, you can take a look at MuazKhan's demo for inspiration.
  • jsiepkes 1983 days ago
    Looks cool! Though I don't really see any distinctive features which sets it apart from Jitsi meet ( https://meet.jit.si ) which is also open source?
    • cyborgx7 1982 days ago
      I feel like sometimes you have to develop the thing you want, and can't find anywhere, for people to tell you that it already exists.
      • simplify 1982 days ago
        Yeah seriously, it's like we need a "Fake Show HN:" to surface these apps that are already out there.
        • gitgud 1982 days ago
          Well the problem is people making things that they don't know exist, so "Ask: HN" would already suit this I suppose...
    • vasanthv 1983 days ago
      Jitsi Meet does not work in mobile without downloading their app, but this one does. Just open the URL and it just works from the browser.
      • itake 1983 days ago
        Jitsi Meet also provides support for screen sharing.
      • Vinnl 1983 days ago
        That is sweet! How do you plan on financing this?
  • SamWhited 1982 days ago
    Doesn't work at all for me. On Firefox I allow camera and mic and just get a black screen, on Chromium it doesn't even ask for camera and mic permissions, but even if I manually enable them it gives me a popup saying that it requires access to them (that same popup never showed up on firefox before I had enabled them, but I didn't outright reject it either, so maybe it just doesn't show until it thinks it asked and I didn't notice it).

    Nothing on the console, but I know nothing about front end web development so I'm afraid I probably can't provide a useful bug report.

    • hamslamwich 1982 days ago
      Similar user experience comment from me: for whatever settings i have on Chrome, all i get when entering is a black screen and a popup that says "This site will not work without microphone/camera access". Not a deal-breaker, but definitely could be a friendlier/welcoming experience
  • jeremija 1982 days ago
    I've also made a similar app a while ago: https://peercalls.com Source is available at: https://github.com/jeremija/peer-calls
  • wingerlang 1982 days ago
    I am video chatting a lot, and for some reason desktop-to-desktop in FB Messenger always struggle (mobile is fine usually). This worked instantly, nice.

    Although I did notice my internet got cut off twice, usually this happens when I download torrents. Could the P2P of this be the reason for this?

  • omk 1982 days ago
    Would be a good idea to remove the google tracker in the github source code. I've created an issue. https://github.com/vasanthv/hello/issues/16
    • vasanthv 1982 days ago
      Sure will do. Thanks for pointing out.
      • Sir_Cmpwn 1982 days ago
        Thanks for removing it from GitHub. Would you also consider removing it from the deployed site, please?
  • sabbakeynejad 1982 days ago
    Really nice! Might be a good idea to think a little bit about how to communicate your brand.

    Many users will have no idea if they ever used your product or not. You should use the network effect of group calls to advertise your product. Maybe just stick your logo in the top right corner?

  • vidanay 1983 days ago
    Does it traverse corporate firewalls? I use appear.in a lot, but all users must be either inside the firewall (VPN works) or outside the firewall, there cannot be a mix.
    • hardwaresofton 1982 days ago
      BTW appear.in went login-only sometime recently (I think? I used it yesterday and was surprised), no more free anonymous rooms :(

      jitsi meet still has free anon rooms though

      • vidanay 1982 days ago
      • j1elo 1982 days ago
        appear.in went login-only very recently, and they only allow for a single room name, which is a pain in the * (although it's free so I can't complain...)

        I'm using talky.io more since the change. Works pretty well, and they allow to start the call with audio only, which is something appear doesn't do.

        • hardwaresofton 1982 days ago
          Ahhh -- yeah, I didn't blame them too much, since of course they need to monetize somehow or maybe even were being crushed under the server load (giving bad service even for free might piss off people or invite bad press).

          In the end a bunch of these companies are really just using WebRTC under the covers + some improvements/management on their side, so they should be avoiding most of the load (especially since most of them say they can't support >4 people in a room or whatever since that's the traditional limitation of truly p2p webrtc implementations).

          thanks for the pointer to talky.io, I also took note of some of the other suggestions in this thread, will be using them as well.

  • melicerte 1982 days ago
    What is the license of the open source code ?
  • ada1981 1983 days ago
    The link wasn’t copiable for me without grabbing it from the address bar.

    Is it possible to record and capture the video?

  • asymmetric 1982 days ago
    Looks great! Are the p2p video streams end-to-end encrypted?
    • pedalpete 1982 days ago
      webrtc has end-to-end encryption by default built into the browser
  • Angostura 1982 days ago
    Reminds me of the early days of Tinychat.
  • yakshaving_jgt 1982 days ago
    How will you charge for this? Because if it's free, it won't stick around for long.
    • vasanthv 1982 days ago
      Running is cost is negligible. - Paying for the domain (19$/yr). - Using Zeit now's free plan for hosting. - Very low load on the server as it is P2P. - No database.

      Guess I can run it for free. :)

      • mrgreenfur 1981 days ago
        Thanks for making it public and open! Might use parts of it in an upcoming project.
    • buwka 1982 days ago
      Vasanthv put it on GitHub as open source so I don't think they have much of an intent of monetizing the service. I think the lasting impact is that it allows others to easily set up video chat on their own servers.
  • mcjiggerlog 1982 days ago
    I made a similar app recently - https://p2p.chat

    Code is available here - https://github.com/tom-james-watson/p2p.chat/

    (Warning - definitely pretty alpha still)