Forge – Work with Git forges from the comfort of Magit

(github.com)

141 points | by jdormit 71 days ago

5 comments

  • mattnewport 71 days ago

    Is "forge" a well known term in this context? What does it mean exactly? A web based git host that adds collaboration features like issues and pull requests? Seems like that from the context but I've not seen the term before.

    • pacbard 71 days ago

      Isn't that the beauty of language? Communicate meaning through words. I agree that the word "forge" might not be defined as "a source host that adds collaboration features like issues and pull requests", however you have to admit that the word captures that meaning fairly well. What other word could be used to communicate the same meaning? Hub? Bucket? Lab? Hut? It could very well be a nod to SourceForge, but the idea of a software forge captures well, in my opinion, the kind of services that those websites offer.

      • __david__ 71 days ago

        Probably a reference to the granddaddy of these kind of sites, Source Forge.

        • piotr-yuxuan 71 days ago
      • tptacek 71 days ago

        I know this is off-topic, but: a resource I really wish existed is "how to build Emacs UI like Magit".

        • nextos 71 days ago

          That's so true! Emacs has got some modern and really well crafted packages during last decade (e.g. Magit, Org or Notmuch). It's a really interesting and vibrant platform right now. I have high hopes for lsp-mode.

          Another package with great UI is calfw.

          Of course, there were already plenty of great classic packages (e.g. Dired, Calc, Gnus or Eshell) and modes (e.g. AucTeX, SLIME, ESS...). But things are getting really good lately.

          ELPA and use-package have also done away with lots of friction points when installing and updating packages.

          • mbrock 71 days ago

            Thanks for the calfw recommendation! I just installed it and it's really nice.

            • cnasc 71 days ago

              > I have high hopes for lsp-mode.

              I do too, but I've had no luck at all with it so far.

            • TeMPOraL 71 days ago

              Not that much off a topic, and a great question.

              Emacs seems to be probably the only one piece of software still in use that can be considered a software runtime for text-oriented applications and UIs. It gives building blocks that strongly favor function and efficiency over form (though one grows to like the minimal, text-based aesthetics). If you write your code correctly, you can get some pretty awesome features for free - like TRAMP, i.e. access to remote files as if they were local, across a variety of protocols and with ability to tunnel through networks.

              But my absolute favorite right now is that, unless you purposefully screw it up, your Elisp program will look and work the same way on GUI Emacs frames as it will work on Terminal frames. That is, I get to use it from anywhere, by SSH-ing to my computer and running `emacsclient -t`. A capability I use extensively for programming on the go, and which alone gave my small laptop years of extra useful life.

              I love Magit, and I'm excited for more software that's built on Emacs.

              • piotr-yuxuan 71 days ago

                You might have a look on https://github.com/magit/magit-popup

                • tarsius 71 days ago

                  I am hoping to release Magit-Popup's successor Transient tomorrow (or later this week if I can't get the manual done in time).

                  • zck 71 days ago

                    I'm very interested in this. I hadn't seen magit-popup, but I'll check it out, and also Transient when it comes out. If you want anyone to help look over the manual, I'd love to help (email in profile).

                • throwaway427 71 days ago

                  In the same vein it would be nice to have the same for "how to build an emacs UI like sx.el for your favorite discussion site".

                  • mbrock 71 days ago

                    Oh wow, I didn't know about sx.el either, and I just tried it and ... I'm for sure going to be spending a lot of time in there.

                  • rabidrat 71 days ago

                    Do you use Emacs besides Magit, and is the Emacs integration essential to what you want? What other tools or workflows would you want to build?

                    • pvg 71 days ago

                      How would we even communicate with a creature so alien they use Emacs just for Magit?

                      • TeMPOraL 71 days ago

                        Try using Org Mode as a common plane for communication.

                  • mattnewport 71 days ago

                    I hear good things about magit, does anyone have any good learning resources for someone who is relatively new to emacs?

                    • 180wdock 71 days ago

                      Here's a recent talk/screencast by John Wiegley that covers a lot of Magit tips and tricks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-k-lkilbEs

                    • weavie 71 days ago

                      It doesn't really get any better than the documentation on the homepage:

                      https://magit.vc/

                      • mattnewport 71 days ago

                        Thanks, I probably just need to start forcing myself to use it for a while and try and get over the initial hump of just wanting to get things done quickly using the tools I already know.

                        • AlexCoventry 71 days ago

                          It depends almost completely on git for tracking repository state, at least for basic usage, so you can switch back and forth to your familiar methods quite safely. That way, you only have to learn a little of it at a time.

                          • TeMPOraL 71 days ago

                            And at any time, you can just use "! !" to run an arbitrary git command on your repo, if you so choose. Since Magit depends on git for status tracking, you don't risk breaking anything.

                      • jimjimjim 71 days ago

                        try this one as well https://youtu.be/1IYsiHXR620

                        Mike Zamansky has a whole range of emacs related youtube videos.

                      • erk__ 71 days ago

                        I have been using it happily, but I have an issue where I have a fork on github, but I can't get the forge to point at upstream instead of my fork, it changes to the other github as soon as I set pus Default if I remember correctly. Is there any way to do this?

                        • tarsius 71 days ago

                              The convention is to name the upstream remote ~origin~.  If you follow
                              this convention, then you have to do nothing else and the remote by
                              that name is automatically used, provided it exists and regardless of
                              whether other remotes exist.  If it does not exist, then no other
                              remotes are tried.
                          
                              If you do not follow the naming convention, then you have to inform
                              Forge about that by setting the Git variable ~forge.remote~ to the name
                              that you instead use for upstream remotes.  If this variable is set,
                              then Forge uses the remote by that name, if it exists, the same way
                              it may have used ~origin~ if the the variable were undefined.  I.e. it
                              does not fall through to try ~origin~ if no remote by your chosen name
                              exists.
                          
                          This is from the manual, but I will have to move (or copy) to a more prominent place within the manual. (This is currently in the node titled "Token Creation".)
                        • detaro 71 days ago