• vemv 115 days ago

    One specific thing I think FP distributed-system frameworks could bring is instantaneous, deterministic testing.

    e.g. I have N microservices, they communicate via IO (which means slow/brittle tests) but the framework abstracts over that, so I can run the whole system test suite under a second, because all IO (messaging, DB, concurrency) can be replaced with an in-memory implementation.

    Interestingly, one could also inject faults to those IO mocks, and test how the system respond to that.

    I believe FP is a prerequisite for meeting those goals, because otherwise having impure IO all over the place is hard (if not impossible) to mock out.

    • polskibus 115 days ago

      What you describe seems similar to Akka's multi node test kit.

      • hderms 114 days ago

        I agree, but what about when the persistent shared state ends up actually being most of what needs to be tested in a distributed system?

        • vemv 114 days ago

          Can't see the problem in principle - all kinds of storage (DBs, S3, Redis) seem mockable.

        • dmgcodevil 114 days ago

          Yes, that's certainly possible. Also, you can choose between different effect systems, e.g.: Cats Effect, Monix and Scalaz ZIO

        • linux2647 115 days ago

          Looks like a library for Scala and other JVM languages?

        • tunesmith 115 days ago

          Is this an alternative to something like Akka Cluster Sharding and Persistence/Distributed-Data?

          • dmgcodevil 114 days ago

            In theory, wherever Akka is used Parapet can be used instead. It's just not that big as Akka. Parapet provides a messaging module for interprocess communication based on ZMQ.

          • thekhatribharat 115 days ago

            How does this compare to Metaparticle (https://metaparticle.io/about/)?

            • dmgcodevil 114 days ago

              as I can see Metaparticle is a tool specifically built for Kubernetes and uses its API underhood. Parapet can be extended to support Kubernetes ecosystem how it was done for ZMQ. Parapet can be integrated with Metaparticle, so that you can run the same distributed algorithms written in Patapet in a Kubernetes cluster.