I will try to present to GeoMob sometime next year. I have stumbled across an interesting/powerful way to render planetary sized vector tile sets, leveraging Agafonkin's amazing geojson2vector of course.
I am not having much progress selling the idea that people like to look at a map and discover stuff. I like to devise "excursions", daft train trips that last weeks, that kind of thing. The layout of any region's transit infrastructure., from metropolis, country to entire continental level is at the very least highly intriguing.
You obviously have to do this with vector tiles, but even then you need to rapidly simplify the network if you want it to be interactive obviously, the lines have to be merged and unique else you wont be able to interact with them. It's timetable driven we only paint where we know there's a service, not everywhere we can see railway track and not by crudely styling out road classifications, It's not a journey planner. it's a route finder though. You get to see every route in any context just by looking at it. it's a map. I am using graphhopper extensively behind the scenes obviously but a much closer integration with a multi-modal journy planner is required. Once you actually get down to asking what time the bus actually comes we are better off in a journey planner proper. Existing journey planners to my knowledge dont allow you to wave the cursor outside your hotel and instantly see where all the nearest buses go to.
They dont allow you to look at a country and instantly see there's an interesting wiggly line on some extremity of the network that will invariably turn out to be some kind of tourism target. They don't allow you to look at an entire continent and visualize all international ferries, arterial bus routes and essentially the entire rail network, in one blink.
I need to put back the whole of TfI buses and ferries as we have essentially comprehensive data set for ROI. And I have some bugs and thresholds to fix. I will update this thread if there's a significant step forward, Collaboration or just vocal support is sought.
Thanks for the post, I am still playing with this, unless you are interested in republic of ireland or the UK national rail network, there's not a great deal of map yet to explore. I hope though that anyone knowledgeable about trying to do this kind of thing can appreciate where we ae going. I need to tweak the merging, and also get a lot more of Europe back on (I have rail stuff for western Europe and a few national bus networks) in order to demonstrate the merging better. The thing with this stuff is when it works you dont notice, but when it doesn't you end up with a big blob of uselessness. The point of blobbines and uselessness of the map comes very quickly with a metropolis as you can imagine. You cant even do a map of just Paris, which has a bus on seemingly every single backstreet in town, until you get this to work.
I want to question the "global" a bit. I zoomed into Vienna and there was just the normal OSM tileset (showing lots of public transport) without any additional data.
Not sure if this is a loading bug on my end, but if I zoom out, I'm seeing information for the UK, Ireland, India and nothing else. Zooming in anywhere else doesn't seem to reveal any more data.
Despite saying "It's a complete map of ALL transport networks, on a single map. ", it appears to be missing the London Underground which is probably the most important transport network in a major world capital.
I am not having much progress selling the idea that people like to look at a map and discover stuff. I like to devise "excursions", daft train trips that last weeks, that kind of thing. The layout of any region's transit infrastructure., from metropolis, country to entire continental level is at the very least highly intriguing.
You obviously have to do this with vector tiles, but even then you need to rapidly simplify the network if you want it to be interactive obviously, the lines have to be merged and unique else you wont be able to interact with them. It's timetable driven we only paint where we know there's a service, not everywhere we can see railway track and not by crudely styling out road classifications, It's not a journey planner. it's a route finder though. You get to see every route in any context just by looking at it. it's a map. I am using graphhopper extensively behind the scenes obviously but a much closer integration with a multi-modal journy planner is required. Once you actually get down to asking what time the bus actually comes we are better off in a journey planner proper. Existing journey planners to my knowledge dont allow you to wave the cursor outside your hotel and instantly see where all the nearest buses go to.
They dont allow you to look at a country and instantly see there's an interesting wiggly line on some extremity of the network that will invariably turn out to be some kind of tourism target. They don't allow you to look at an entire continent and visualize all international ferries, arterial bus routes and essentially the entire rail network, in one blink.
I need to put back the whole of TfI buses and ferries as we have essentially comprehensive data set for ROI. And I have some bugs and thresholds to fix. I will update this thread if there's a significant step forward, Collaboration or just vocal support is sought.
I head up the development of a MaaS provider in the UK and always on the lookout for people doing anything new in the world of travel.
One of my wants for next year is to build a better discovery engine for finding routes from over travel content types.
I'd love to hear more about what your interested in building with this.
https://i.imgur.com/OI0NejI.png
Despite saying "It's a complete map of ALL transport networks, on a single map. ", it appears to be missing the London Underground which is probably the most important transport network in a major world capital.