6 comments

  • w3rhn2j34oh5o 1652 days ago
    Last time I was in a Silicon Valley Hotel, I had to sign a waver that I accepted that there was an Alexa in my room. Of signed it, and unplugged it (as well as the TV). I will not have these horrible things near me. The hotel claimed they would charge if you unplugged it. They didn't.
    • rchaud 1652 days ago
      Pretty soon, I imagine there will be Airbnb Experiences ads that tout something about "living simply" with hosts that specifically do not have "smart" devices in their home.
      • _RPM 1652 days ago
        Not exactly a listening device, but I was in an AirBnb once. Every time I would open the door, I could hear a notification being played in the upstairs unit. It wasn't the back door that caused the notification, but the actual door the apartment I was staying in. It was displeasing.
      • panpanna 1651 days ago
        FYI, house owner spying on people using smart cameras has been a major problem for Airbnb for a good while now.
    • stallmanite 1652 days ago
      I wonder what would be their reasoning behind wanting to charge for a customer unplugging an Alexa. Why would it matter?
      • panpanna 1651 days ago
        Lost earnings?

        After all, you pay them $150/night but they also get $0.1 from Amazon that they just can live without...

        I wonder what happens if you refuse to sign it

      • xenospn 1652 days ago
        Someone has to come in and plug it back in, I’m assuming.
        • stallmanite 1652 days ago
          Right but doesn’t someone have to vacuum and clean the place anyway? Seems like the additional cost of adding “plug in the Alexa if it’s unplugged” to the cleaning checklist would be completely negligible.
    • bberenberg 1652 days ago
      Can you share what hotel this was?
  • propogandist 1652 days ago
    this is not going to help when Google, like Amazon, is pushing for things like always listening ear buds (announced today). Anyone around you can be leaking conversations or other sensitive information.

    >The latest version of Google's Pixel Buds will be able to get hands-free access to Google Assistant so you just have to say "Hey Google" ...

    This is extremely intrusive technology being introduced to solve problems that don't exist, so that more data can be harvested about everything surrounding your life.

  • aussieguy1234 1652 days ago
    I'm waiting for an open source smart speaker where I control all the data.

    Until then, I wont buy one.

  • unlinked_dll 1652 days ago
    What about if you have an android device on your person?
    • NicoJuicy 1652 days ago
      What about Apple if you are Chinese
  • kbos87 1651 days ago
    > “As Mr Osterloh points out, its Nest cameras shine an LED light when they are in record mode, which cannot be overridden.“

    Yeah, as of about a month ago it can’t be overridden. The changes they’ve made to Nest devices recently just confirm the fact that their products are heavily predisposed to violating the privacy of anyone nearby.

  • kevas 1652 days ago
    What happens in two party states and the uninformed party does not concent to being recorded?