Beeware – Android and iOS Apps in Python

(beeware.org)

156 points | by Naac 4 days ago

9 comments

  • sebmaynard 4 days ago

    Here's a project the Beware team built, there's an iOS version built from the same source too

    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.keith_mage...

    Also a note re their platform compatibility, it's not just Android and iOS: iOS, Android, Windows, MacOS, Linux, Web, and tvOS

    Looks very interesting, going to give it a go adding guis to some existing cli python toys I've built

    • asimjalis 4 days ago
      • Hamuko 4 days ago

        Looks pretty miserable. Are there any proper example applications or is this more of a toy framework?

      • moritzmoritz21 4 days ago

        Sorry to play the bad boy here.

        But we have 2020 these 2 Apps (Android and iOS) are looking like websites from the 90s.

        I don't get the point why everyone wants to add a framework to write one codebase and deploy on many platforms.

        There are great working frameworks out here why we need the 100 framework doing this?

        • owaislone 4 days ago

          Because everyone wants their preferred set of tools/languages to do it using the design patterns they like and there is nothing wrong with that. I don't see myself using Beeware ever really but that doesn't mean people shouldn't work on it.

          • detaro 4 days ago

            the last line of the comment you replied to gave a pretty good example: If you have tools build in tech X and just want to wrap them in a UI to make them usable on a phone. (similar to how Python ships with Tk bindings for UI: no, its not pretty, but it's an UI and thats what you want sometimes, without learning something big or worse a different tech stack)

            • moritzmoritz21 4 days ago

              > Looks very interesting, going to give it a go adding guis to some existing cli python toys I've built

              and your python cli you want as bundled iOS/Android app? I don't buy it.

              But anyway everyone has different problems and if this 1000 framework is solving this, congrats :clap:

            • logicOnly 4 days ago

              Because if I can compile an iOS app in Python I don't need to give Apple (as much) money.

              • bobthepanda 3 days ago

                I mean, you’d still need to give them money for the dev tools if you happen upon some iOS specific bug.

          • goffi 4 days ago

            In comparison to Python-for-Android with Kivy, the main thing that jumps out at me is the use of native UI (Kivy has its own UI, with KivyMD for Material Design theme).

            Is it possible to use Python libraries with C dependencies (it's possible with P4A if there is the suitable recipe)?

            What about the starting time compared to native apps?

            Is it possible to run a Python service in the background?

            Is there any collaboration done/possible with the great work made by Kivy team (Python-for-Android, Plyer, PyJNIus, etc)?

            • tifadg1 4 days ago

              This is very interesting for someone who'd like to casually create a few apps on android for quality of life, but knows only Python and isn't interested in branching further.

              1) how mature is the tool?

              2) are there any established alternatives that this project is challenging?

              • shakna 4 days ago

                On 2, Kivy [0] leaps to mind as a fairly mature cross-platform Python framework that covers iOS and Android. But like most of these things has a few rough edges.

                There's also PySide for Android [1], which is also fairly mature but is... Much rougher. With a higher learning curve. And less iOS focused.

                [0] https://github.com/kivy/kivy/

                [1] https://wiki.qt.io/PySide_for_Android_guide

                • app4soft 4 days ago

                  Sadly there are no good alternative to PyS60 (Python for Symbian S60) for Android yet.

                • bartvk 4 days ago

                  Looks like it depends on what you call "mature".

                  I just downloaded the example app called Travel Tips, and I get unreadable buttons and text because out-of-the-box, it apparently doesn't support dark mode.

                  When I turn it on, I get unequal padding between boxes and no native pickers, just a picker at the bottom of the iPhone.

                  When I run it on iPad, it boxes the content (two black bars left and right. The interface is simply stretched up, without regard for the huge space that the iPad offers.

                  Font sizes do not adjust with iOS settings, even if you restart the app.

                  https://apps.apple.com/us/app/travel-tips/id1336372310

                  • bartvk 3 days ago

                    ) // closing bracket

                • qmmmur 4 days ago

                  This looks really good to be honest. So many projects I would have loved to create GUI's for and distribute that way but the overhead of having to sort out dependencies and packaging make it not feasible.

                  • dreamer7 4 days ago

                    Does anyone have experience using this for their apps?

                    • Naac 4 days ago

                      You can find an old example here:

                      https://github.com/eliasdorneles/tictactoe-voc

                      Looks like this was back when beeware was using VOC, which AFAICT is no longer being used.

                      I've been trying to find more recent examples but it doesn't look like there are many public projects using beeware.

                    • fredley 4 days ago

                      Beeware / Beware, not sure about that name!

                      • philprx 4 days ago

                        How does this compare to kivy ?

                      • replwoacause 4 days ago

                        Looks awesome, will give it a go.

                        • Well if I can quickly translate my small personal use app ideas to Android using this, then this is gold for me.

                          Thank you for this. I'll try it out and let you know how far I could get.

                          • nemosaltat 4 days ago

                            Same for me!

                            tifadg1 sums up my use case nicely: > This is very interesting for someone who'd like to casually create a few apps on android for quality of life, but knows only Python and isn't interested in branching further.

                            I have some little python utilities that I’d love to have an iOS GUI wrapper for, but not enough to pay the $99 and learn something new.