T-Mobile not allowing older devices on their network

17 points | by anonymousiam 11 days ago

4 comments

  • wmf 11 days ago
    First, "4G" non-LTE is actually 3G.

    T-Mobile's 3G network will shut down on October 1st, around two weeks from now. For obvious reasons T-Mobile doesn't want you to activate devices that are about to stop working.

    • qohen 11 days ago
      A bit more detail, from: https://www.androidpolice.com/2021/08/05/t-mobile-3g-shutdow... (from the update towards the bottom):

      T-Mobile is no longer accepting CDMA-only devices and phones without VoLTE as of June 16.

      T-Mobile's UMTS 3G network is still scheduled to close down on October 1.

      Sprint's legacy CDMA 3G network is set to shut down on January 1, 2022.

      Sprint's LTE and 5G network will turn off on June 30, 2022.

      • LinuxBender 11 days ago
        I don't have a link handy, but this is also coming soon to Verizon. My little throw-away phone will soon have to be thrown away. Probably important to triple check that this phone isn't used for 2FA anywhere. I believe January according to their support team, but don't quote me on that.
        • anonymousiam 10 days ago
          See above where I asked them during each interaction (usually more than once) whether the device was supported on their network. Also note that they replaced my device. Why would they send me a device that would no longer work on their network three weeks later?

          Also, after swapping SIMs back and forth with my iPad, the ZTE 64 is once again working. I believe that TM is running a script that checks when the device first joined the network, and how long it's been since the device negotiated a 4G LTE connection. If joined after 8/1/2021 and no LTE for a week, the device is banned. Swapping the SIM into a different (LTE capable) device resets the one week timer.

          As an aside, I can see that some of TM's cell sites are still advertising 2G service. Press releases from last year said they would support 2G/3G service until December 2022. Now the press releases are saying they will shut those down at the end of this month.

          • anonymousiam 10 days ago
            Also, the ZTE 64 is a 4G LTE device, but even though I bought it from T-Mobile, they are claiming that it will not use LTE on their network. Apparently the frequency bands for their LTE are not compatible with the device. This would not bother me so much if I had not bought the device from them, but I did, and they should support it.
        • tsjq 11 days ago
          this 4G 5G thing is becoming yet another factor accelerating planned obsolescence
          • rastafang 11 days ago
            just when we are looking for ways to reduce waste... thanks Biden for doing nothing (dang, I'm not trying to be political... that's just how it works)
            • quantified 11 days ago
              I don’t see any real signs that we’re trying to reduce waste. California liberals even want recycling symbols taken off of non-recyclables.
              • tsjq 11 days ago
                Why was recycling label present on non-recyclables ?
                • wmf 11 days ago
                  AFAIK the idea was to label different types of plastic and let people figure out how to recycle them later. But it's now decades later and some types of plastic still can't be efficiently recycled.
                  • 0x000000001 11 days ago
                    Most plastic can't be recycled, yep. If it would melt under low heat (plastic bags, food containers, other packaging) it can't be recycled.

                    HDPE plastic -- the heavy duty stuff? The only truly recyclable plastic.

                    I throw all plastic that can't be recycled in the trash.

                  • quantified 11 days ago
                    Lack of prevention.
            • 0x000000001 11 days ago
              Buy a hotspot from Calyx instead and you'll get 5G/LTE speeds with no caps or throttling on T-Mobile/Sprint

              I was getting 300mbit downloads when I was in Chicago with mine a couple weeks ago

              • anonymousiam 10 days ago
                Yesterday I ordered a new Netgear Nighthawk MR5200 (5G, Unlocked). They are pricey, but I already have a MR1100 (4G) and I believe it's the best hotspot I've ever used. They say I'll get the new one on Thursday. Hoping that's true.
              • idkidkidkidk 11 days ago
                Makes sense,

                I see ads on TV/internet for cheap Wireless deals, i just assume it mean a longer contract/forcing you to buy a pricier phone