Show HN: Property Trends Scraped from Zillow

(trends.pillr.io)

136 points | by tndibona 13 days ago

28 comments

  • datalopers 13 days ago
    Zillow publicizes a higher granularity (~90 MSAs and weekly) of this data at https://www.zillow.com/research/data/

    > Median List Price: The median price at which homes across various geographies were listed.

    > Median Sale Price: The median price at which homes across various geographies were sold.

    > Sale-to-List Ratio (mean/median): Ratio of sale vs. final list price.

    > Percent of Sales under/over List: Ratio of sales where Sale Price below/above the final list price; excludes homes sold for exactly the list price.

    • bmelton 13 days ago
      Zillow's data packaging is undoubtedly better than ours (analytics isn't yet very core to our business) but if you'd like to see rent values statically associated to MSAs and ZIP codes on a map, we publish that at https://dwellsy.com/rentmaps
      • breckenedge 13 days ago
        This could really use filters for # rooms and # baths.
      • malshe 11 days ago
        Wow, this is really nicely made!
      • tndibona 13 days ago
        Hello there. OP here! your site is similar. The UI is better than mine. Can we exchange notes?
        • bmelton 13 days ago
          Gladly. My email is in my profile.
    • shane291 13 days ago
      I have a Colab notebook that will generate a report with property trends for any MSA in Zillow's dataset: https://github.com/8shashank/zillow_analysis

      It uses the Zillow data set mentioned above. I would suggest giving it a shot as well, the graphs are rudimentary but they work well enough for me. :)

    • tndibona 13 days ago
      Hey thanks for this. Im looking at this. But I’d still have to download spreadsheets and the data is aggregated by regions bigger than zipcodes I think. Im hoping my site offers a simple and straightforward experience
  • tndibona 13 days ago
    My project will average out the data on recent "sale-price over-or-under the asking-price" for an entire zipcode. This should produce a report showing you how things are trending. I hope this will help people make an informed decision.

    Caveats :

    1.This works for the USA only.

    2.The report should take up to a minute to display as the data is being scraped from Zillow.

    3.If the site does go down, it is due to the volume of traffic from reddit. Then I'm going to need to scale up my servers. I will try and stay on top of this.

    4.If the no results are obtained, Zillow probably didn't have "sales" data for that zip code, or the connection to Zillow failed. I would just retry once again.

    I'm looking for feedback on these points:

    1. How do I monatise without adverts? I would hate to display ads and kill the experience.

    2. Do you want similar trends? Eg. I could also show "Average days in the market for properties", "Similar zip codes for your budget." etc

    3. Would you be willing to register and voluntarily give up some data ? I would like to know where you are searching from, it will help me build a database of "Where are people from and where are they looking to move?"

    4. Any thing that will help me improve is good.

    • linsomniac 13 days ago
      Can you recommend a zip code to try, I tried several in Northern Colorado and got "We did not get any results".

      One way you could monetize would be to make deals with MLSes for integration into their services, either for realtors or for consumers. Can't tell how appropriate it would be for realtors, I assume it's more oriented towards consumers.

      If there's some way to get to see Northern Colorado there, I can send it around to some POI in the local MLS and see what they think. Again, you might not be looking for MLS feedback.

      Disclaimer: I run coloproperty.com and the MLS. :-)

      • philsnow 12 days ago
        > I run coloproperty.com and the MLS

        How did you find yourself running those? What's your story if you don't mind me asking?

        I've known many people who got into real estate (just getting a realtor's license) on the side as a way to make some extra money, but to me the appeal has always been having access to the "raw" MLS information / hearing about properties before anybody else.

        Do you have any gut feeling for what percentage of properties never hit the market because of connections like these?

      • tndibona 13 days ago
        Can we connect ? I will look up your info from your website
        • linsomniac 13 days ago
          I replied in e-mail on the address on Pillr.
      • tndibona 13 days ago
        Try 19130
        • melenaboija 13 days ago
          Not working for me
          • tndibona 13 days ago
            Could you try now? I made hacker news front page so my site is getting hit with traffic and the proxy service data limit maxed out. I’ve just topped up the account.
    • eclipxe 13 days ago
      You're likely breaking Zillow TOS, so expect a C&D before you monetize
      • itsnotlupus 13 days ago
        I think scraping websites that don't require authentication is legal in the US nowadays.

        Monetizing data acquired through scraping could run afoul of copyrights, so the love letters would probably only arrive once OP attempts monetization.

        • unclebucknasty 11 days ago
          >I think scraping websites that don't require authentication is legal in the US nowadays.

          The LinkedIn lawsuit resolved to that conclusion, though I think LI is appealing again.

          It basically says the site can't take legal action against scrapers of public (non-auth protected) info. Still, there's nothing that says they have to make it easy for you, to include deploying anti-scraping measures, rate limits, redesigns and moving data behind auth.

        • Ekaros 12 days ago
          I thought that USA doesn't allow copyrighting facts which to me numeric values certainly are.
          • tndibona 12 days ago
            OP Here! Yes I don't know the law well but common sense tells me that its one thing to copyright a brand, logo, movie, or anything creative, and it's another to copyright numbers on a database.

            The only argument Zillow can against me (imo) is that I'm being a burden on their servers at scale.

      • tndibona 13 days ago
        I would be very happy if my project gains attention from a product manager from Zillow and they say “Why don’t we just let him pay for the data”. I’m unable to get their attention and they’re very cryptic about their GraphQL API spec.
        • WaxProlix 13 days ago
          Hell yeah brother, greyhat on.

          Alas, you'll likely hear from a lawyer before a PM, but good luck nonetheless.

          • Mandatum 12 days ago
            It's usually the PM who prompts the lawyer, "hey that person is stealing my limelight, please fix it".
          • tndibona 13 days ago
            Yeah. I feel like Zillow will pretend like all this data somehow belongs to them when it belongs to the public.
            • eclipxe 13 days ago
              IANAL but just because it is public data doesn't mean that Zillows aggregation and capture of the data can't be subject to copyright.
              • tndibona 12 days ago
                Good point. IANAL too, But I can’t imagine copyrights on work that didn’t even belong to Zillow. It’s not creative content like a movie. They are just collecting data off existing sources.

                I could also argue that I’m redistributing the computed data done by my web app like the average, median, and the graph. Then I’d have to hide the Zillow results source table.

            • grepfru_it 13 days ago
              If this is the case, why not go to the source of the data? (I think it’s because the source of the data is not guaranteed to be free but hitting Zillow’s public infra is)
              • tndibona 13 days ago
                The problem is the source isn’t one place. The source is a collection of 500 MLSes across North America. They have a vested interest in keeping the data accessible only for licensed realtors. Striking a conversation with 500 MLSes would be a big undertaking, I would need contacts and connections in the real estate world.
                • grepfru_it 12 days ago
                  Hmm the source Zillow and other realtor company’s get their data from are local governments. They all offer tax, ownership info, last sale price etc. they all also charge differing amounts from free (if you walk into their records office) to cost per dataset to as costly as cost per data request. Then there’s the sheer number of locales you must query for this info, typically on a per county basis. So you head to a data broker who has collected all of this information but they charge for their time and efforts which is $&$$. So that’s why I mentioned Zillow’s public servers are cheaper

                  Contacts and connections are easy. Money is harder :)

                • jpmattia 12 days ago
                  Might be worth noting: There is a DOJ antitrust lawsuit against NAR over MLS practices, though I don't know if your use-case is part of that.

                  https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-files-anti...

    • impendia 13 days ago
      > How do I monatise without adverts?

      I found this interesting, and was immediately curious for more: what the data was like going back more than a month, if there are any correlations to number of bedrooms, school districts, or the like, etc. etc. I could imagine you coming up with very interesting auto-generated 40-50 page reports.

      I would not pay for this now, but when I was on the real estate market last year I might have. You could target individual buyers or sellers ($5-20 or so for a single report), real estate agents (some sort of subscription), or both -- don't know what the best strategy is.

      • tndibona 13 days ago
        As a prototype, now the data is fetched from Zillow and cached. I’d have to start saving data to disk and run queries for what your asking. Which is possible, I’m trying to buy time to build this out. I need to attract investment also. Thanks for your kind words.
    • autoexec 13 days ago
      > How do I monatise without adverts? I would hate to display ads and kill the experience.

      I'd say go ahead and display ads, just do it without being obnoxious. Limit ads to small static images hosted on your own domain or text links, keep them unobtrusive, and don't use Google or any other evil surveillance capitalism company.

      Because the site is driven by zip code you've got a great opportunity to provide ads relevant to the area and not the specific user. Anyone who finds reasonable ads so off-putting that it would drive them away from your service will be using ad blockers anyway.

      Personally, I never register for websites if they require an email address unless they have a need to know my identity to accomplish what I want from them. Your site wouldn't meet that requirement so no registration for you. I'll sign up for some sites that need a registration but don't require a legit email address but they don't get my real info (fake names, addresses, etc)

      Remember that any information you collect you then have to retain, backup, secure, etc. and it puts on the hook for reporting data breaches and for gathering and handing all of that information over to governments and other parties in response to court orders. Never collect or store any more data than you absolutely need to and you'll have so much less to worry about.

      If you really really want to make money without ads, limit the number of accesses to something sane and charge the people who hammer your site day after day or week after week some fee for the trouble. They obviously find your service useful so maybe a small fee would be worth it to most of them. Maybe you can even offer to automatically push the kinds of data they keep requesting over and over again to them in some way.

    • nocommandline 13 days ago
      >> How do I monatise without adverts?

      I think folks who are house hunting will find this useful when looking for comps (they will be getting information for multiple if not all houses in their target zip code in a table; they can easily digest the information in the table). So you could potentially charge a small fee (say $5 - $20) for house hunters to run this query and have the information available to them (say a link) for a month or so. During that period, they can click on the custom generated link and it will give them the most recent result.

      Same thing for 'Average days in the market' but this will be targeted at those looking to sell.

      The trick would be where to find these folks so they know about your service. Maybe advertise in housing forums or reddit (find the housing related forums)

      • tndibona 13 days ago
        The secure link is an awesome idea, thanks
        • leobg 13 days ago
          House hunting bot. User specifies area by drawing on a map. Filter criteria like number of bedrooms, driving minutes to any particular address, etc.. Display as a sortable table.
      • dboreham 12 days ago
        Carfax model.
    • kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 13 days ago
      > 1. How do I monatise without adverts? I would hate to display ads and kill the experience.

      Well, selling it to Zillow is probably a natural fit. Or some other realtor org, but you'd probably have to change the source of your data.

    • harrisonjackson 13 days ago
      Hire a sales guy/team to sell this as a tool to realtors and wholesaling companies.

      They spend a ton of money on market analysis products because most of them don't have any sort of background that helps with it.

      If it helps them get 1 more client or help a listing sell for just a couple % more it has paid for itself.

      Button it up a bit, paywall it, run every zipcode as a job and cache the fully rendered html report the end user sees.

    • ddispaltro 13 days ago
      You should look at 94941, there some sort of anomaly.
      • tndibona 13 days ago
        Thanks for the report. I found the problem . Look here https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/14-Eton-Way-Mill-Valley-C...

        If you scroll down you’ll see they made an error listing the property at 389million instead of 3.89 million. I’ll have to use some upper /lower limits in the graph to bump out outliers like this . It’s hard to pick a number, some distress sale properties get sold for very low prices

    • martin_ 13 days ago
      re #4 - tiny UX improvement: could you add a retry button? I keep waiting a minute, clicking return to homepage, retyping the zip, etc.

      edit: One other thing, it showed "Loading property 6 of undefined..." then back to "We did not get any results" which seems quirky.

      • tndibona 13 days ago
        Thanks for the feedback. My original plan was to load the data “live” as obtained using web sockets but that damn socket.io is proving to be unreliable. I’ll land up doing something like you recommended.

        As for the “loading property of undefined” , thanks for the report. A code cleanup is long overdue

    • substation13 13 days ago
      > 1.This works for the USA only.

      I'm pretty sure the splash image is London, UK. Very confusing!

    • dclowd9901 13 days ago
      Monetisation: what about automated appraisal?
      • mNovak 13 days ago
        Like a Zestimate?
  • rnk 13 days ago
    I think they got overloaded or too many queries on their backend. No results for several different zip codes in my big city.
    • tndibona 13 days ago
      OP here, experiencing the HN kiss of death. Load balancer 502s .I’ve increased the number of docker containers across the entire stack. Hopefully it copes up with the load. My aws bill will be hiiiigh
      • rnk 12 days ago
        It's working for me now 24 hours later. The results are interesting, thanks for putting this up there.
    • jareklupinski 13 days ago
      same. I think today, OP learns about caching ;)
      • tndibona 13 days ago
        Already using redis for the cache. I’m using a rotating proxy to bypass Zillow captcha, they’re not able to keep up with the load
        • dylan604 13 days ago
          It'll be sad if they figure out who you and your bots are, and then deny you specifically access. Got backup plans for when you get zero results for every query because of that?
          • tndibona 13 days ago
            Yes lol. Realtor.com is also scrapable so that’s the immediate backup. Long term I have to speak FTP csv files from a bunch of archaic MLS integrations. If I need to go that route, I need money.
            • Rediscover 13 days ago
              To me, that seems a much simpler route than screen-scraping (yes, despite problems parsing CSV format).

              I've been involved with screen-scraping of req's for <major airplane company> to produce spreadsheets for others in the same company, and I'll take FTPing the data->CSV almost any day.

              * Especially when the FAA is the eventual consumer *

              • tndibona 13 days ago
                The bigger challenge is not the ftp integration per say. The fact that all the housing data is distributed across nearly 500 MLS sites that closely guard their data and make it available only to licensed realtors. I would expect each of these MLS sites to have different formats. So trying to strike up a conversation and allowing them to let me use their FTP site is the biggest hurdle. Zillow and the rest of the big guys already have their claws deep into the MLS sites and they probably want to closely guard their pipelines. Small guys like me don’t know where to start.
            • kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 13 days ago
              I do integration work for healthcare; you want an interface engine to pull the data from the ftp site, then translate/convert it into your desired format.

              We do that all the time.

              • gooseyman 13 days ago
                What’s your favorite tool for this? Just starting to get my feet wet in this world.
            • smcin 13 days ago
              But I want to see Realtor.com vs Zillow numbers (vs MLSListings vs Redfin vs the others...). It's not like any of these are ground truth. How much are the discrepancies, where are they and why?

              Also, is zipcode the lowest level of granularity (presumably not)? Do any of these services have finer granularity?

          • _tom_ 13 days ago
            Or just get an injunction.
        • datalopers 13 days ago
          > they’re not able to keep up with the load

          Zillow can absolutely keep up with the load. Your proxies are being blocked by the WAFs that Zillow utilizes, usually PerimeterX. Also, based on your other comments, you have no idea how to architect a web application that can handle the trickle of HN traffic, and I'd wager any problems are more likely on your side.

          • linsomniac 13 days ago
            I assumed the "they're" referred to the "rotating proxies" not "zillow".
            • tndibona 13 days ago
              Is correct. The proxy service… it’s slower on the responses from the logs
          • tndibona 13 days ago
            I mean, I think I have some idea. The problem is more on the affordability side. I had to scale up the containers in my cluster to cope with the increase in 502s. I live with the fear of a high AWS bill. Then there is the question of the proxy rotators data limit being breached, which happened! I topped it up for now. Now I’d rather spend time asking Zillow to allow me to exist rather than trying to architect a more efficient proxy mechanism.
            • datalopers 12 days ago
              This site could run on a $5/mo VM without issue. Proxies that charge for bandwidth can get expensive, sure, but that’s a separate issue. Waiting on a response from Zillow/Proxies requires nearly zero cpu on your servers and it should be a background/async process. There’s only ~40k zip codes and only ~10k that remotely matter for even very small towns.

              Find a shared proxy provider that doesn’t limit bandwidth. It’s usually about $0.50/mo per IP. Not that any of this really matters, you’ll still get blocked by Zillow. It’s not an IP limit l anyway, it’s a TLS fingerprinting or JS-based fingerprinting issue that is getting you blocked.

              • tndibona 12 days ago
                I'm using Puppeteer with Chromium to mimic a browser with the headers changed to look like a real user. The proxy service only handles the data transport. Running a browser cluster at scale costs me CPU, and memory (My peak yesterday on HN was 40-100 requests a second). Direct GET / POST requests to Zillow didn't work. I'm not sure $5 per month VM will cut it. Do you have the details on a provider that will give me a $5/m deal for this setup ?
                • vgeek 12 days ago
                  Check out residential proxy services. Some of them have apps users install, others may be more... nefarious. They're cheap and you can rotate through them. Some may have clients that are a pain to work with, some may be SOCKS access.

                  https://www.webscrapingapi.com/top-residential-proxy-provide... obviously SEO'd page, but it has useful info.

      • linsomniac 13 days ago
        Can't speak for Zillow, but some API endpoints don't allow you to cache results you obtain from them, license-wise.
        • tndibona 13 days ago
          API ? You’re funny, I’ve been begging Zillow for their API and no response. I’m scraping using html parsers
  • xnx 13 days ago
    Good luck with this. Scraping may be legal, but redistributing the data probably isn't. I expect the real estate cartel protects their MLS data pretty aggressively, otherwise there would be dozens of sites like this already. https://apnews.com/article/technology-lifestyle-business-pro...
    • tndibona 13 days ago
      Read the whole article. How can I compete with a cartel? I’m doomed. Maybe take this idea as-is and switch countries to the British market is also an idea I’m thinking
      • Aromasin 13 days ago
        This sort of data is reasonably accessible in the UK, although perhaps not quite to the same degree as your app. Either way, I suspect the value-add is less than it would be in the US.

        Rightmove, the primary property app in the UK, gives you the previous price the properties were purchased for, although perhaps not analytics across an area per se.

        • tndibona 12 days ago
          Do you think region wide trends would be well received by the english public? I'm Exploring similar needs in other countries where data is a more readily available.
      • dclowd9901 13 days ago
        Homeowners who are selling don't want their data locked up. This should be a class-action suit. I bet there are a dozen attorneys who'd take on this case. You may not make out personally, but a condition can be the opening of listing data. Its locked nature should be considered problematic at best for fair housing rules.
    • tndibona 13 days ago
      Thanks for your kind words
  • confounded 13 days ago
    The question is, after this superb yak shaving, did you actually buy a house?
    • tndibona 13 days ago
      Rofl. No! Got priced out after having bid 35k over asking price. Because you know, people have more money… I’m renting in NJ right now. Hoping this side gig leads somewhere
      • bredren 13 days ago
        Great Q&A here. Good luck, OP.
  • knicholes 13 days ago
    "Generating the report for 84058, this will take a while!" contains two independent clauses. They should not be separated by a comma. They should be separated by a period. It should read "Generating the report for 84058. This will take a while!"
    • tndibona 13 days ago
      Thanks. I’ll fix it.
  • zxcvbn4038 13 days ago
    Very nice! Properties in the area I’m interested in are now selling for 7% below asking price whereas a year ago they were getting 30% above asking price. On a different site, several properties that I saw sell in the past few months have relisted. It’s obvious they overbought or were speculating and are trying to get out now.

    I can’t wait for the business study of how much wealth the Property Brothers end up destroying - should be much more interesting then the story of the guy who stopped putting olives on the airline salads.

    • tndibona 13 days ago
      I’m glad this project helped!
  • jeffbee 13 days ago
    How is this different from Redfin's sale-to-list data, and why do people use Zillow instead of Redfin when superficially at least Zillow appears to be wrong about everything?
    • tndibona 13 days ago
      I’m hoping the message and presentation makes the difference. It was hard for me to follow the multi coloured ratio lines on the graph.
  • uptown 12 days ago
    You should add a column to show the closing price difference as a percentage of the asking price and include this in the summary value statement at the top of the page.
    • tndibona 12 days ago
      I have a toggle button to switch between "dollars" and "percentage". Does it not do what you're saying?
      • uptown 12 days ago
        It does but I guess it’d be nice to see both at the same time.
        • tndibona 12 days ago
          Yeah I see your point. Hard to strike a balance between a simple UI and a bloated dashboard. This one is for the discussion board.
  • mixmastamyk 13 days ago
    Neat, just tried it. I think the daily trend is too granular. Twice a month or maybe monthly would show a stronger trend.

    As I already knew, houses in this zip often selling $300k above list, some are pushing $800k. Yea inflation! cough

    • tndibona 13 days ago
      Thanks for your words!
  • tndibona 12 days ago
    I have reached Hacker news front page which is a lifetime achievement for me. I just hope someone from Zillow takes notice and has a constructive conversation with me.
  • jchonphoenix 12 days ago
    Just an FYI, Zillow is litigious and your entire service goes against their ToS. They will sue if this takes off and doesn't help them to somehow.
    • huitzitziltzin 12 days ago
      Context for that: Zillow is not the original owner of the data. The data is owned by the several hundred regional MLS’s (note the watermarks in any picture you see on the site).

      Data use agreements with those organizations require that anyone using it make efforts to prevent its being scraped.

      Source: have signed a DUA with an MLS myself for academic research.

      • tndibona 12 days ago
        OP Here! Good insight. Do you have contacts with the MLS? I'd like to use them instead of relying on Zillow. How can I contact you ?
  • jschveibinz 13 days ago
    I tried a couple of zip codes and it works pretty well. There were a couple of glitches in rendering the results, but I like it. It’s a useful tool.
  • guimonz 11 days ago
    Useful tool! One suggestion is that 30 days is not enough for sparsely populated areas. Maybe add the option for 3 months?
  • chologrande 13 days ago
    Do you intend to make the dataset available? I've attempted to do something similar, but had difficulty, would love access to the dataset.
    • tndibona 13 days ago
      Please reach out “info at pillr.io” . FYI, I’m a single person, not a big company.
  • entwife 13 days ago
    Zillow published a sales price for my house that was 33% greater than the actual sale price. I don't trust Zillow's price data.
    • ramenmeal 13 days ago
      Probably the broker added the price incorrectly, or the public county data was keyed incorrectly.
      • tndibona 13 days ago
        Is probably correct. There is another comment in this post and I did some investigation. The 3.89 million dollar property was erroneously entered as 389 million.
  • km3r 13 days ago
    Could you add inputing multiple ZIP codes (or just a city)? The data for just one seems too noisy once you start playing with the slider.
    • tndibona 13 days ago
      Good suggestion. Noted for future work
  • enonevets 13 days ago
    It seems the only filter is by square footage to narrow results.

    Are there plans to filter by more params?

    • tndibona 13 days ago
      I can do a lot more. But this whole thing is a house of cards because I’m relying on Zillow who can shut me down anytime. I need one of Zillow/ RedFin / MLS companies to agree to allow me to formally use their data. Then, I can start building the good filters and fancy dashboard. Getting their attention has been futile so far. Just cold email responses at best or no response at all.
  • carfacts 13 days ago
    Looks similar to RealtorStats.org
  • eek2121 13 days ago
    Yep, site claims 107% over list price. It tracks for Nashville. Love this site.
  • victorbstan 13 days ago
    Can you do by country and zip code? Would like to see Canada there.
    • tndibona 12 days ago
      Thanks for the request. Could you give me the best sources in Canada similar to zillow? I can try and explore if I can scrape it.
  • Panther34543 13 days ago
    What is the legality of scraping those sites?
    • tndibona 13 days ago
      Afaik, US Supreme Court has ruled that it is not illegal to scrape public data for a similar case with LinkedIn. As for me being a pain for Zillows bandwidth - I’ve requested them umpteen times to allow me to pay for their API. They just simple ignore me. I’ve found a way around their captcha, in the long term, I have to obtain the data directly from the MLSes
      • skanga 10 days ago
        Would you be willing to share how you get around their captcha?
    • wraptile 13 days ago
      It's perfectly legal!

      That being said, you still need to be resource-polite. A lot of people scrape Zillow through browser automation toolkits like Selenium, Puppeteer etc. because it's a JS heavy website and these tools are really bandwidth intensive. This could, in theory, get you in trouble for DDOS.

      Instead, since Zillow is using Next.js for their backend so, you can actually retrieve the dataset for any page just by parsing the nextjs cache. This can be done by selecting data in the <script id="__NEXT_DATA__"> node which requires minimal resources from both sides. e.g. in python:

        import json
        import httpx
        from parsel import Selector
        
        response = httpx.get("https://www.zillow.com/b/1625-e-13th-st-brooklyn-ny-5YGKWY/")
        script_data = Selector(text=response.text).css('#__NEXT_DATA__').get()
        script_data = json.loads(script_data)
        # all of the property data is here, for example building details:
        print(script_data['building'])
      
      I wrote a tutorial on this if you'd like to learn more: https://scrapfly.io/blog/how-to-scrape-zillow/#scraping-prop...
      • skanga 10 days ago
        Outstanding tip. Thank you VERY much.
  • jareklupinski 13 days ago
    eager to try, tried a couple places in NYC, got "Oops! We did not get any results" :(
    • tndibona 13 days ago
      Try 19130
      • leobg 13 days ago
        Why not add this as placeholder value directly to your search input field? “Try 19130”. For those who come to the site without reading the comments here.
        • tndibona 13 days ago
          Good suggestion. Next iteration will surely have this
          • shmoogy 12 days ago
            Next next iteration maybe if no results show a similar one that's cached for you so there's no unavailable requests for a valid zip? And/or storing stale data with a last accessed date range.

            I wish you the best of luck getting the blessing of MLS, I had an idea for something similar and couldn't get anything useful.

            Also I think Zillow is litigious as part of their agreement to have access to the data (and proprietary reasons obviously)

  • patothon 13 days ago
    "over the asking price" is a useless metric, might be more interesting to elevate $/sqft.
    • sellmethepen 13 days ago
      I would disagree with this statement. It's really interesting in markets like the bay area from an individual consumer perspective
      • patothon 12 days ago
        why though? genuine question.

        sometimes sellers over or under estimate their home. Over asking price doesn't indicate how a market is doing. It indicates other things: are sellers under estimating their home to start bidding wars? how delusional some sellers are on the price of their home? etc. These are interesting things to know, but as a buyer, I'm more interested in putting the right offer at the right time, and there's no better indicator than $/sqft for a specific location. Of course it varies (how many bedrooms? how many bathrooms? other cool amenities?) but this could be a subfilter of this product.

    • tndibona 13 days ago
      Noted
  • snapcaster 12 days ago
    This is super cool
    • tndibona 12 days ago
      (Saying this in the voice of Austin Powers) - Athankyu
  • tedd4u 13 days ago
    Redfin has this and quite a lot more on their Market Insights feature.

      https://www.redfin.com/zipcode/<ZIP_CODE>/housing-market
    
    For example: https://www.redfin.com/zipcode/95050/housing-market
    • tndibona 13 days ago
      Yep I’m aware of this but I’m trying to beat them with the simple UI and straight forward messaging.
  • BigBenBongs 13 days ago
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